Volume #4, Issue #3
Date: December 1990
Editor:
Jason Ohler, Director
Educational Technology Program
University of Alaska Southeast
ONLINE JOURNAL OF DISTANCE EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION
In the industrial age, we go to school. In the information age, school can come to us. This is the message implicit in the media and movement of distance education.
It is traditional in many countries to exchange messages of good will on paper-based media (often called 'Christmas cards') which are then distributed via post. Please accept our electronic equivalent, created by students from the Dalkey School Project National School in Dublin, Ireland:
Created by: SIMON ("WIZZ") CIARAN
EOIN ("COOL") ELLORD
ADAM("GENIUS")
CHRISTINE
DARAGH
Contributed by:
Computer Communications Group, Dalkey School Project National School
Glenageary Lodge
Glenageary, Co. Dublin, Ireland
DALKEYSP@IRLEARN.UCD.IE
Volume 4, Issue 3
December 1990
Editor: Jason Ohler
Educational Technology Program Director
University of Alaska Southeast
11120 Glacier Highway, Juneau, Alaska 99801
907-789-4417
BITNET USERID: JFJBO@ALASKA
Layout and Editorial Assistant: Ruth M. Ryan
University of Alaska Southeast
BITNET USERID: JSRMR@ALASKA
Technical Coordinator: Paul J. Coffin
716 Taschereau
Ste-Therese, Quebec
J7E 4E1
Phone: 514-430-0995
BITNET USERID:
JSPJC@ALASKA
E - Mail addresses | |
MoSTNet, USSR | |
M O S C O W | |
S C H O O L | EIES: 1593 |
TELECOMMUNICATION | IASNet: /02502040300/ |
NETWORK | ID: MOSTNET |
PSW: MOSTNET | |
ACCESS THROUGH: | BITNET: MOSTNET@LABREA.STANFORD.EDU |
USENET: MOSTNET@cdp.UUCP |
Moscow School Telecommunication Net is the first Soviet computer communication system providing services to education. It initially supported twelve Moscow schools taking part in the New York State/Moscow School Telecommunication Project.
Now the users of the net are: schools in Moscow, Leningrad, Kiev, Moscow City Committee on Public Education and Moscow University. At the present time the possibilities for network expansion are limited by the lack of equipment in the schools.
The MoSTNet host computer runs on the "WildCat" communication package. MoSTNet uses an IAS node in Moscow to enter the international computer networks.
The main aim of MoSTNet is development and selection of most effective means of telecommunication in education. The Laboratory "Telecommunica- tions in Education" of the Council of Cybernetics of the Academy of Sciences is conducting research based on the MoSTNet activities. Two primary activities are developing new educational materials, and conducting international educational research projects.
HISTORY OF SOVIET-AMERICAN SCHOOL TELECOMMUNICATION PROJECT
Alexander Uvarov - Director of Telecommunication
Center, Alexandra Prussakova - Project Coordinator
Concern about the necessity of educational system reform and on the need for new educational content has been expressed by many educators. There exists wide spread opinion that computers and telecommunicating can make a significant change in the teaching - learning process. However,in the center of our attention is still the vital problem of introduction of new informational technologies into the school, their interaction with rapidly developing process of integration of new content and new educational means with the traditional approaches.
The basic idea was that the use of new technological means of communication and the direct contacts between people of different countries with common interests will become in the next decade one of the global factors changing the consciousness of the people. The new communicational unity will define the next step of development of world culture and the global community. In this context, the NYS-Moscow project can be regarded as one of the attempts to organize the productive dialogue between the representatives of two different cultures.
The project was founded as a pilot experiment for the evaluation of the potential role of computers and telecommunications with the rapidly changing educational content of general education and increasing contacts between the educational establishments, teachers and students of USA and USSR. The results obtained during the experiment can serve as a model for similar programs as computers and telecommunications become more widespread and less expensive.
The project was founded by Copen Family Foundation and the Council of Cybernetics of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR with the organizational support of New York State Department of Education and Moscow State Department of Public Education.
Alexandra Prussakova - project coordinator
ITEM 3.
Since the days of Horace Mann and Andrew Carnegie public schools and
libraries have made the basic tools for learning and achievement
available to all citizens. This same vision is the motivating force
behind the rapidly growing FrEdMail Network.
Data communications is fast becoming one of the most important
of the new information technologies. Electronic mail is becoming a
way of life for most businesses. The access and use of electronic
text is a basic and necessary research function. The solvency of
any modern global economy is now dependent upon international
telecommunications, which transports information from where it is
created to where it is needed. Yet given the costs of most of
today's commercial networks, few schools can afford to utilize the
commericial networks which are available.
The FrEdMail Foundation is committed to the idea that schools
and libraries across America must once again step forward, in the
spirit of Horace Mann and Andrew Carnegie, as forces for
democratizing access to electronic text as a basic tool of
information and education. The FrEdMail Foundation believes that
all teachers and students must have access to, and be able to
constructively use, this increasingly important technology at the
lowest possible costs.
In order to achieve this goal, the FrEdMail Foundation was
incorporated in January, 1990, as a California non-profit
corporation. Its purposes are to:
The FrEdMail Foundation is currently undergoing a major
transition, from an informal, experimental network to a full-
service, utility-grade service which can meet the growing and
pressing needs for access to telecommunications technologies. In
order to accomplish these goals, the FrEdMail Foundation engages in
several activities.
FrEdMail stands for "Free Educational Electronic Mail." It is a dynamic,
growing distributed telecomputing network, consisting of over 120 locally
owned and operated mail centers across the country, with sites in
Argentina, Australia, and Ireland. During most of every day, each site
operates as a stand-alone electronic bulletin board system serving
local teachers and students. However, it has three features which
make it unique:
FrEdMail is not an information utility. Its primary function is
to transmit student writing from one place to another, thereby
opening up distant audiences for students. FrEdMail is more properly
thought of as a writing tool, one which can be used effectively at
any grade level and in any subject. The purpose, and emphasis
behind, FrEdMail is to provide real audiences and real purposes
to motivate writing!
For the most part, students do not correspond directly with each
other. Most activities grow out of teacher-developed projects and
are implemented through teacher to teacher contacts.
Students do all of their writing away from the modem, away from
the telephone line. In a well-designed program, the phone line
should be used only occasionally, at which time a batch of student
writing will be transmitted wholesale, quickly and efficiently. It
should alleviate the pressure for acquiring expensive dedicated
phone lines in order to participate in a network, thus enlarging the
audience of potential teacher-participants.
Through a grant from the National Science Foundation, in the
fall of 1990 the FrEdMail Network will begin using the Internet and
NSFNet as its high-speed national backbone transportation system.
This will permit many existing university computing facilities
around the world to serve as a community file server for FrEdMail
sites at local schools and district offices. This will in effect
give FrEdMail users access to a utility-grade, international
transport system at minimal costs. With access to these facilites,
within three years the FrEdMail Network will serve over three
thousand districts around the United States, with many international
connections.
To receive more information and a free complimentary copy of the latest
FrEdMail Newsletter, send us your name, school, district, and complete
mailing address to:
Al Rogers, Executive Director ITEM 4. Distance Education: An Overview and its Use in American Education
ABSTRACT
This method of teaching, termed distance education, has been either
somewhat successful or an abject failure, depending on the interpretation
of results. Although a university has been running on this model for two
decades in Great Britain, few similar programs have followed in its
footsteps.
Varieties of distance teaching are gaining acceptance in the United
States. This success has applied only to certain aspects of distance
education; for various reasons, other types have been inhibited by
insuperable hurdles.
Even in the accepted medium of combining distance education as part of
a classroom curriculum, through the use of broadcast television,
controversy has been sparked by an offer by Whittle Communications, which
has offered free television equipment in return for a guarantee that all
students will watch the program, as well as the two minutes of commercials
that are included.
Distance education is not meant to be a panacea for educational
deficiencies, yet it could be a method of correcting some faults of the
educational system as it stands. This paper summarizes its tenets, and
determine why it has met with resistance in this country, or, more
frequently, not been introduced at all.
Jeffrey Porten ITEM 5.
"This electronic telepathy lets one toss thoughts to the
electronic wind and hear the echoes of other minds, as they touch
our thoughts, without debt to time or distance." Frank Odasz
US West has funded Western Montana College of the University of
Montana to empower the ingenuity of Montanans through a grant
designed to train 104 rural residents in the use of
telecommunications to benefit their communities. These "Community
Telegraphers" will learn how to enjoy greater access to statewide
resource persons and to communicate nationally and globally
through Big Sky Telegraph. An additional five community
electronic systems, modeled after Big Sky Telegraph, will be
created to demonstrate the advantages of a local system, which
can provide everyone within the local dialing area with free
access to national and global communications.
Big Sky Telegraph is a model project showcasing the convenience
of personal computer communications for community empowerment.
Written messages can be more easily shared than spoken
communications with 100% reliability and NO telephone tag. Many
of the benefits are invisible until personally experienced, but
the power is indisputable.
Today, Native Americans may be faced with a spiritual challenge.
Whether a spiritual mission, or an ancestral obligation for
survivors of a tragic past, this technology presents a challenge
of vision. Young Native Americans carry the dreams and hopes of
countless generations of ancestors in an age where personal
computer telecommunications make it possible to bring together
tribal communities to strengthen cultural bonds.
Communities have traditionally changed and evolved through the
introduction of new technology, new information, and world
events. The view that cultures remain static appears true only in
the short term.
American Indian cultures have transformed themselves for
thousands of years as tribes traveled, merged with other tribes,
shifted from hunters to farming, or the reverse. American Indian
cultures changed in the 1700s when the Spaniards introduced
horses and iron knives. The rifle, white settlers, disease, and
alcohol changed the culture again in the 1800s. The 1900s have
overwhelmed Native American cultures through massive development
brought on by increasing global mobility and rapid technological
advances.
Knowledge today is the "meat" necessary for community survival.
"Scouts" can use telecommunications to seek out knowledge
necessary to the survival of a community and bring it home to for
all to share. Knowledge on how to use telecommunications to
access vital information can stengthen a community's ability to
meet its own needs. In this way, Big Sky Telegraph is the
Winchester of the 1900s.
It is now possible to vend original Native American poetry and
art internationally via telecommunications as a
culturally-reinforcing economic activity. The value of the
artwork is in its authenticity, making it important for a Crow to
be MORE Crow to succeed, instead of becoming less Crow to survive
in today's changing world.
There are hundreds of Native American artists working in relative
isolation across the Northern Plains. Cultural re-education
programs are emerging, an example of which is the Mountain Crow
in Lodge Grass, MT, who are re-learning the crafts forgotten
during the last generation, as well as creating new crossover art
forms. The need exists to bring these artists together to market
their art internationally.
Native American products are held in high esteem in Europe and
around the world. If all Native American product listings from
Montana were gathered and telecommunications was used to market
them around the world, the value inherent in being Crow, or
Blackfeet, or Shoshone, would be reinforced. The Navajo already
are using telecommunications to market their products in 40
countries. Several international trade experts have already
pledged their support in helping create a Northern Plains
Marketing Consortium. The Whole Earth Review Magazine has pledged
to run a major article next spring on Big Sky Telegraph's efforts
marketing Native American computer art through
telecommunications.
A tribal electronic bulletin board, placed at the location of
the tribe's choice, and accessible by everyone at no charge
within the local dialing area, could serve as a reflection of
the tribal community. Limited public access to the system would
allow people from all over the world to call in to learn about
the specific tribe and what the tribe has to market or teach.
Written histories, essays, and stories can be collected,
preserved, and shared. Pow-wows can take place without traveling,
by sending and receiving messages of light, at ANY convenient
time, using a personal computer and phonelines. This is easy to
learn, but requires a forward vision of that which could be.
The young can assist the old in preserving cultural history, and
in sharing it more easily within the tribe and throughout the
world. Online courses teaching tribal history and culture could
be offered worldwide as an economic educational activity.
Cultural tourism could be promoted. Tours such as Curly Bear
Wagner's Blackfeet historical tour could provide international
tourists with an opportunity to hear each tribe's historical
perspective. Causes such as protecting Mother Earth can be
dramatically empowered.
It is possible that tribally controlled electronic bulletin board
systems could serve a positive democratizing role for tribal
members. Another advantage would be allowing tribal members
living off the reservation to remain linked with their tribal
community.
ITEM 6.
A. Request for Asian-American Studies
I am looking for courses, majors, minors, or concentrations
in Asian-American studies. Does anyone know of such courses
which are offered on-line? If so, please let me know. Thanks
Harry W. Gardiner, PhD
B. ANNOUNCEMENT: Norman Coombs named Professor of the Year
Norman R. Coombs, a blind professor of history at
the Rochester Institute of Technology, has been named New York State
Professor of the Year by the Council for Advancement and Support
of Education.
The organization chose Coombs from 537 state nominees for his
extraordinary commitment to teaching, service to RIT and his profession,
and his impact on students, according to RIT. About 2,900 colleges and
universities belong to the council, the nation's largest association of
educational institutions. Coombs, who has worked at RIT since 1961, is
known for teaching his classes along with telecourses in the College of
Continuing Education through RIT's computer network. He conducts class
discussions and sends and receives assignments all on the computer.
A voice synthesizer enables him to "read" his students' electronic
messages. "I tell them I'm blind, but it's irrelevant," Coombs said in the
written announcement. "I work on the computer the same as they do. The
computer obliterates my handicap."
Coombs is on a sabbatical leave to adapt three of his black history
courses for computer delivery. Coombs wrote Black Experience in America
and he has published extensively on computerized instruction. He has a
master's degree and a doctorate in history from the University of Wisconsin
at Madison.
C. ANNOUNCEMENT:
We are pleased to announce the 17th IASSIST conference, which will
be held in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada during May 14-17, 1991. The
central theme will be "DATA IN THE GLOBAL VILLAGE: STEWARDSHIP OF
AN EXPANDING RESOURCE." This title expresses IASSIST's concern for
managing and sharing computer-readable data gathered on a wide
range of issues facing our global community. This theme also
touches upon the need to care for and preserve an
ever-expanding volume of computer-readable data.
The Conference Committee is soliciting proposals for papers,
presentations, poster sessions, and panel discussions in areas
including:
Specific topics within these general areas for the 1991 conference
include:
Proposals for presentations of any kind should be received
by the Program Committee Chair on or before November 15, 1990.
Proposals should be accompanied by a brief abstract
(ca. 100 words). Notification of acceptance of the presentation
will be given by December 15, 1990.
For further information, we invite you to contact the Program
Committee chair:
telephone: (416) 978-5589
D. Request for International Directory Contributions
I am compiling an international directory of computer-based facilities
doing research in the humanities and general area of language. Approximately
175 such facilities are presently catalogued through questionnaires dis-
tributed throughout the U.S., Canada, Europe and Japan. So far, we have had
no evidence of such activity in Latin America, Australia or Africa. Whether
this lack of information is due to the absence of activity or a failure to
identify it cannot be easily determined. If anyone on the DISTED network is
aware of facilities that should be included, any information will be
appreciated.
Joseph Raben
E. POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT
Visiting Research Fellows
The Center for Information Technology at the University of Alaska
Anchorage is seeking applicants for one senior visiting research fellow
and two junior visiting research fellow positions.
The research fellows program provides full support for research projects
that will contribute to the understanding and/or development of Alaska's
communication and information systems.
SALARY:
QUALIFICATIONS:
The center wants to encourage a variety of methodological approaches to
analysis of communication and information issues. Projects may be in the
areas of communication effects, information management, telecommunication policy, or applications development. They may be critical
assessments from the users' perspective of existing technologies or
demonstrations of how technologies might be used in innovative ways to
meet Alaskans' needs. They might also focus on improving understanding
of how decisions regarding Alaska's telecommunication systems are made.
The senior research fellow would be nationally recognized for research
activities related to communications and/or information systems. Possess
a Ph.D. The junior research fellows would have graduate training in the
type of research that is proposed. Possess an M.A.; ABD preferred.
APPLICATION PROCEDURE:
Applications should state:
More information is available from the Center for Information
Technology, University of Alaska Anchorage, 2221 E. Northern Lights
Boulevard, Suite 209, Anchorage, AK 99508. The Bitnet address is
AFLLP@ALASKA. Submit application materials to Dr. Larry Pearson,
Director of the Center.
F. ANNOUNCEMENT:
Catalogue of Distance Delivered K-12 Course Offerings Compiled
I am putting together information on K-12 course offerings and inservice
teacher training programs delivered via distance learning networks. As far
as I can determine, no such complete catalogue exists. If your oganization
does provide either or both services (for free or for a fee), and you would
like them included in our survey, please send the information to:
G. REQUEST:
Request for information about the use of networks, distance education,
and/or educational technology by, for, or with Native audiences or
indigenous cultures.
If you have any information about this, please email the editor at:
jfjbo@alaska. Thank you.
H. Getting Past Issues of the Online Journal
A number of people have asked for directions in obtaining past issues of
the Online Journal, which, along with Paul Coffin's help, I have finally
put together. This is basically a three step process:
From the VAX main frame at the University of Alaska the process is as
follows. Everything I type is in square brackets []. All my notes to the
reader are in regular brackets {}.
(UWAVM)LISTSERV - * File "DISTED FILELIST" has been sent to you in Punch
format. {This means it has been sent, but NOT received yet.}
(ALASKA) - Received network file DISTED.FILELIST from LISTSERV@UWAVM
(UWAVM)LISTSERV: {Now the file is on your main frame waiting for you.}
$ [receive *.*] {note- this process converts the file I receive from
Punch format to something that I can list on my
screen.}
{Now I type out the file, which is essentially a catalog of back issues,
to see what it is I want.}
$ [type disted.filelist]
*
* File "DISTED FILELIST" contains records larger than 80 characters.
* It is consequently being sent to you in "Listserv-Punch" format.
*
* You can get information about that format by sending the following
* command to LISTSERV@UWAVM.BITNET: "Info LPunch"
*
ID/DISTED FILELIST V 00104
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103/2/ DISTED LOG8811 ALL OWN V 79 38 88/11/01 15:04:58
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104/2/ DISTED LOG8904 ALL OWN V 79 20 89/04/13 16:09:01
104/2/ DISTED LOG8905 ALL OWN V 80 1428 89/05/12 11:26:42
103/2/ DISTED LOG8907 ALL OWN V 79 2713 89/07/05 16:22:47
103/2/ DISTED LOG8910 ALL OWN V 79 957 89/10/04 10:19:53
104/2/ DISTED LOG8912 ALL OWN V 79 1185 89/12/21 06:28:21
104/2/ DISTED LOG9003 ALL OWN V 80 1098 90/03/18 12:42:28
104/2/ DISTED LOG9009 ALL OWN V 77 1542 90/09/14 14:38:30
103/2/ DISTED LOG9011 ALL OWN V 76 1532 90/11/09 14:19:20
END/
{The file format makes this difficult to read. However, all you really need
to know is that the date at the end of the record corresponds to the LOG
number toward the beginning. For example, in the last record LOG9011
pertains to the issue that came out November 9, 1990. Read that: Log from
1990, month 11. To get that issue, I procede as follows:}
$ [send listserv@uwavm]
(ALASKA) - Received network file DISTED.LOG9011 from LISTSERV@UWAVM
{Now it is on the main frame waiting for me.}
{To see it I print it to the screen.}
{The Online Journal would appear on the screen, at which point it could be
read real-time, captured in a file, printed to your printer, or any
combination of these.}
by Al Rogers, Executive Director, FrEdMail Foundation
alrogers%CERF.NET@Sdsc.BITnet (FredMail)
FrEdMail Foundation
Box 243
Bonita, CA 92002-0243
619-475-4852
FrEdMail Foundation
PO Box 243
Bonita, CA 92002
619-475-4852
Internet: alrogers@cerf.net
Applelink: alrogers
CIS: 76167,3514
FrEdMail: SDCOE!AROGERS
Presented at the Second International
Student/Young Pugwash Conference
Leningrad, USSR, September 22-26, 1990
by Jeffrey Porten, Annenberg School for Communication
(SJPORTE@ASC.UPENN.EDU)
New technologies can now change an aspect of education that has
remained the same since the time of Aristotle: physical location of the
instructor in relation to the students. Predominant in the history of
education to date has been the group-based, oral method of instruction to
a group within sensory distance of the instructor. In recent decades,
however, more and more sophisticated methods have become available that
separate the tutor from the
tutee but still allow a relationship conducive to quality education.
Annenberg School for Communication
SJPORTE@ASC.UPENN.EDU
by Frank Odasz, oldcolo!bigsky!franko@hp-lsd.cos.hp.com
Psychology Department
University of Wisconsin
LaCrosse, WI 54601
GARDINER@MSUS1
and
Call for Papers
Laine Ruus
Data Library Service
University of Toronto Library
130 St. George Street
Toronto, ON M5S 1A5
FAX: (416) 978-7653 or
e-mail: laine@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca
Queens College
Flushing NY 11367
Senior Researcher: $55,000 for 12 months, medical benefits,
relocation allotment.
Junior Researchers: $27,500 for 12 months, medical
benefits, relocation allotment.
One junior research fellow position is to be filled in February 1991.
The senior research fellow position and the other junior research
fellow position are to be filled at the beginning of the 1991-92 academic
year. All positions are for 12 months, with the possibility of renewal for
an additional 6 months.
The fellows will be selected on the basis of research or
project proposals that offer some promise of accomplishing one or more of
the following:
Deadline for senior visiting research fellow
and one junior visiting research fellow position is Feb. 27, 1991. A
candidate for the senior research fellow position may nominate a candidate
for one of the junior research positions in the application. Review of
applications for junior research fellow position to be filled in February
will begin Dec. 28, 1990, and continue until the position is filled.
Prof. Arthur Shapiro
Management Department
Stevens Institute of Technology
Hoboken, NJ 07030
BITNET: ASHAPIRO@STEVENS
$ [send listserv@uwavm]
(UWAVM)LISTSERV: [get disted filelist]
(UWAVM)LISTSERV: {Wait a few seconds (hopefully), until you see:}
(UWAVM)LISTSERV: {A few seconds later you should see:}
{Of course you wouldn't see the word Alaska, but the name of your own
node.}
%RECEIVE-S-COPIED, Copied punch file
from: DISTED.FILELIST;1
to: ACADEMIC:[JADIST]DISTED.FILELIST;1
38/1/* DISTED FILELIST for LISTSERV@UWAVM.
1/1/*
78/2/* Archives for list DISTED (Online Journal of Distance Ed. and
Communication)
1/1/*
73/1/*
1/1/*
70/1/* The GET/PUT authorization codes shown with each file entry describe
44/1/* who is authorized to GET or PUT the file:
1/1/*
21/1/* ALL = Everybody
26/1/* N/A = Not Applicable
56/1/* LCL = Local users, as defined at installation time
36/1/* PRV = Private, ie list members
23/1/* OWN = List owners
65/1/* NAD = Node Administrators, ie official BITNET/EARN contacts
60/1/* CTL = LISTSERV Controllers (Also called "Postmasters")
27/1/* HDR = See list header
1/1/*
73/1/*
1/1/
1/1/*
33/1/* NOTEBOOK archives for the list
21/1/* (Monthly notebook)
61/1/* rec last - change
71/1/* filename filetype GET PUT -fm lrecl nrecs date time
Remarks
95/2/*
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(UWAVM)LISTSERV: [get disted log9011]
(UWAVM)LISTSERV:
(UWAVM)LISTSERV - * File "DISTED LOG9011" has been sent to you in Punch
format. {The back issue has been sent, but not yet received.}
(UWAVM)LISTSERV:
$ [receive *.*] {Again, the receive process is necessary to convert the
Punch file.}
%RECEIVE-S-COPIED, Copied punch file
from: DISTED.LOG9011;1
to: ACADEMIC:[JADIST]DISTED.LOG9011;1
$ [type disted.log9011]